#127847: "Simultaneous Actions"
O čom je toto hlásenie?
Čo sa stalo? Prosím vyber z nasledujúcich
Čo sa stalo? Prosím vyber z nasledujúcich
Prosím skontroluj, či už existuje hlásenie na rovnakú tému
Ak je to tak, prosím HLASUJTE za toto hlásenie. Hlásenia s najviac hlasmi majú PRIORITU!
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Podrobný popis
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• Prosím skopíruj a vlož chybové hlásenie, ktoré si videl na obrazovke, ak sa nejaké vyskytlo.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Prosím vysvetli, čo si chcel/a spraviť, čo si spravil/a a čo sa stalo
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v126
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• Skopíruj/vlož text zobrazený v angličtine namiesto tvojho jazyka. Ak máš screenshot (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť Imgur.com na jeho nahranie a skopírovať sem odkaz na neho.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Je tento text dostupný v prekladovom systéme? Ak áno, bol preložený po dlhšie ako 24 hodín?
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v126
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• Prosím presne a stručne vysvetli svoj podnet, aby bolo čo najjednoduchšie pochopiť, ako to myslíš.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v126
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• Čo sa objavilo na obrazovke, keď si bol zablokovaný (Prázdna obrazovka? Časť herného rozhrania? Chybové hlásenie?)?
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v126
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• Ktorá časť pravidiel nebola dodržaná v BGA adaptácii?
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Je možné vidieť porušenie pravidiel na zázname z hry? Ak áno, aké je číslo ťahu?
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v126
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• Aký herný ťah si chcel urobiť?
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Čo si skúsil aby si vyvolal túto akciu?
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
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• Čo sa stalo keď si spravil túto hernú akciu (chybové hlásenie, hlásenie v stavovom pruhu, ...)?
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v126
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• Kedy v priebehu hry sa problém vyskytol (aká bola prebiehajúca herná inštrukcia)?
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Čo sa stalo keď si spravil túto hernú akciu (chybové hlásenie, hlásenie v stavovom pruhu, ...)?
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v126
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• Prosím popíš viditeľný problém. Ak máš screenshot (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť Imgur.com na jeho nahranie a skopírovať sem odkaz na neho.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v126
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• Skopíruj/vlož text zobrazený v angličtine namiesto tvojho jazyka. Ak máš screenshot (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť Imgur.com na jeho nahranie a skopírovať sem odkaz na neho.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Je tento text dostupný v prekladovom systéme? Ak áno, bol preložený po dlhšie ako 24 hodín?
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v126
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• Prosím presne a stručne vysvetli svoj podnet, aby bolo čo najjednoduchšie pochopiť, ako to myslíš.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v126
História hlásenia
This is mostly critical for phase A and E, but could apply to all phases to avoid edge cases (mostly related to trying to get first place in military power)
imgur.com/YespSae
This is round 9 and in the screenshot, I can see what my opponent has chosen for his techs before I had to choose mine. As a result, I can estimate what his military strength will be and tailor mine accordingly. (I can increase my military but that costs me points in other areas so I want to do it only if gets me the crucial military points needed for bigger gain).
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My take on this:
The example shows that waiting for the other players to play is a serious advantage in some situations and this can be really detrimental to fairness and or speed of play, especially in turn-based mode.
I know that it is likely very difficult to change at this stage but it would be very beneficial to do so.
On the other hand, we should see what tech cards everyone has when they are not (seen as) placed.
The best, IMO, for phase A would be as follow:
- Display which techs are owned by everyone but not where they are placed
- Once a player has placed their techs, let them change their mind as long as the game is still waiting for someone (it's annoying to realize you made a mistake or a sub-optimal play but be unable to change while waiting potentially for 2 days for someone else to play...)
- Once everyone is done, reveal where everyone has placed their techs.
Many games with simultaneous turns do function like this.
I also think this is really the way the game is intended to be played IRL so this might actually be seen as a bug even though there is no explicit rule about peeking in the rulebook
Forum discussion:
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38358
This bug appears in _every_ game. The higher the ELO of players, the more critical it becomes.
Pridať niečo k tomuto hláseniu
- Iné ID stola / ID ťahu
- Vyriešil sa problém pomocou F5?
- Objavil sa problém viackrát? Zakaždým? Náhodne?
- Ak máš screenshot (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť Imgur.com na jeho nahranie a skopírovať sem odkaz na neho.
