#32886: "Eliminate hidden trackable information (at least when playing async)"
O čom je toto hlásenie?
Čo sa stalo? Prosím vyber z nasledujúcich
Čo sa stalo? Prosím vyber z nasledujúcich
Prosím skontroluj, či už existuje hlásenie na rovnakú tému
Ak je to tak, prosím HLASUJTE za toto hlásenie. Hlásenia s najviac hlasmi majú PRIORITU!
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Podrobný popis
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• Prosím skopíruj a vlož chybové hlásenie, ktoré si videl na obrazovke, ak sa nejaké vyskytlo.
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
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• Prosím vysvetli, čo si chcel/a spraviť, čo si spravil/a a čo sa stalo
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v90
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• Skopíruj/vlož text zobrazený v angličtine namiesto tvojho jazyka. Ak máš snímku obrazovky s touto chybou (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť ľubovoľnú službu na zdieľanie obrázkov (napríklad snipboard.io), nahrať ho tam a odkaz sem skopírovať/vložiť. Je tento text dostupný v prekladovom systéme? Ak áno, bol preložený po dlhšie ako 24 hodín?
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v90
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• Prosím presne a stručne vysvetli svoj podnet, aby bolo čo najjednoduchšie pochopiť, ako to myslíš.
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v90
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• Čo sa objavilo na obrazovke, keď si bol zablokovaný (Prázdna obrazovka? Časť herného rozhrania? Chybové hlásenie?)?
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v90
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• Ktorá časť pravidiel nebola dodržaná v BGA adaptácii?
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
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• Je možné vidieť porušenie pravidiel na zázname z hry? Ak áno, aké je číslo ťahu?
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v90
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• Aký herný ťah si chcel urobiť?
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
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• Čo si skúsil aby si vyvolal túto akciu?
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• Čo sa stalo keď si spravil túto hernú akciu (chybové hlásenie, hlásenie v stavovom pruhu, ...)?
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v90
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• Kedy v priebehu hry sa problém vyskytol (aká bola prebiehajúca herná inštrukcia)?
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
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• Čo sa stalo keď si spravil túto hernú akciu (chybové hlásenie, hlásenie v stavovom pruhu, ...)?
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v90
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• Prosím popíš viditeľný problém. Ak máš snímku obrazovky s touto chybou (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť ľubovoľnú službu na zdieľanie obrázkov (napríklad snipboard.io), nahrať ho tam a odkaz sem skopírovať/vložiť.
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v90
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• Skopíruj/vlož text zobrazený v angličtine namiesto tvojho jazyka. Ak máš snímku obrazovky s touto chybou (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť ľubovoľnú službu na zdieľanie obrázkov (napríklad snipboard.io), nahrať ho tam a odkaz sem skopírovať/vložiť. Je tento text dostupný v prekladovom systéme? Ak áno, bol preložený po dlhšie ako 24 hodín?
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v90
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• Prosím presne a stručne vysvetli svoj podnet, aby bolo čo najjednoduchšie pochopiť, ako to myslíš.
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v90
História hlásenia
Because in real life in it is difficult to remember how many pieces people have left unless you have a REALLY good memory (specially in 3-4 players games). Assisting players with such information, would, IMHO, ruin part of the spirit of the game. Of course, you can still browse through the logs and see that, but it is difficult, much more like in the live game. Perhaps as an option of people want it, but it will definitively not be by default.
Perhaps, showing the number of TOTAL pieces placed (or remaining) could be done as default, I have to think about this because as it does not require memory but just to count pieces on the booard, it is much more the spirit of the game.
There is a substantial cadre of gamers who play any game where all hidden information is strictly trackable (as it is here) with open hands, and that group also has significant overlap with the type of gamers who like these old school abstract placement euros. To have the option to play this way in the digital world would be great.
I'm not sure I get the "spirit of the game" argument. There's nothing else in the game to indicate that memory or bluffing etc is an intended mechanism or element of the competition in the game, nor do a player's holdings ever change except by removal (it's not like a hidden-money game where flows are going both in and out).
Thanks for considering the option.
With 2 players, it is a cut-throat battle where every move you make matters, and I don't even think that there is an argument for why that information shouldn't be displayed that's worth making. Why not just make it easier for both players when you are able to survey the complete state of the game by counting anyway?
With real competitive games against strangers where your ELO ranking is at stake though, this really just doesn’t make any sense.
Benj
Benj
Benj
Pridať niečo k tomuto hláseniu
- Iné ID stola / ID ťahu
- Vyriešil sa problém pomocou F5?
- Objavil sa problém viackrát? Zakaždým? Náhodne?
- Ak máš snímku obrazovky s touto chybou (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť ľubovoľnú službu na zdieľanie obrázkov (napríklad snipboard.io), nahrať ho tam a odkaz sem skopírovať/vložiť.
