#62353: "Wasn't given an option NOT to take action after placing caballeros"
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Prosím skontroluj, či už existuje hlásenie na rovnakú tému
Ak je to tak, prosím HLASUJTE za toto hlásenie. Hlásenia s najviac hlasmi majú PRIORITU!
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• Prosím skopíruj a vlož chybové hlásenie, ktoré si videl na obrazovke, ak sa nejaké vyskytlo.
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
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• Prosím vysvetli, čo si chcel/a spraviť, čo si spravil/a a čo sa stalo
Yes. Not sure on move number. Round 7.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Mozilla v5
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• Skopíruj/vlož text zobrazený v angličtine namiesto tvojho jazyka. Ak máš screenshot (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť Imgur.com na jeho nahranie a skopírovať sem odkaz na neho.
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
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• Je tento text dostupný v prekladovom systéme? Ak áno, bol preložený po dlhšie ako 24 hodín?
Yes. Not sure on move number. Round 7.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Mozilla v5
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• Prosím presne a stručne vysvetli svoj podnet, aby bolo čo najjednoduchšie pochopiť, ako to myslíš.
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Mozilla v5
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• Čo sa objavilo na obrazovke, keď si bol zablokovaný (Prázdna obrazovka? Časť herného rozhrania? Chybové hlásenie?)?
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Mozilla v5
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• Ktorá časť pravidiel nebola dodržaná v BGA adaptácii?
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
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• Je možné vidieť porušenie pravidiel na zázname z hry? Ak áno, aké je číslo ťahu?
Yes. Not sure on move number. Round 7.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Mozilla v5
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• Aký herný ťah si chcel urobiť?
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
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• Čo si skúsil aby si vyvolal túto akciu?
Yes. Not sure on move number. Round 7.
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• Čo sa stalo keď si spravil túto hernú akciu (chybové hlásenie, hlásenie v stavovom pruhu, ...)?
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Mozilla v5
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• Kedy v priebehu hry sa problém vyskytol (aká bola prebiehajúca herná inštrukcia)?
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
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• Čo sa stalo keď si spravil túto hernú akciu (chybové hlásenie, hlásenie v stavovom pruhu, ...)?
Yes. Not sure on move number. Round 7.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Mozilla v5
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• Prosím popíš viditeľný problém. Ak máš screenshot (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť Imgur.com na jeho nahranie a skopírovať sem odkaz na neho.
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Mozilla v5
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• Skopíruj/vlož text zobrazený v angličtine namiesto tvojho jazyka. Ak máš screenshot (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť Imgur.com na jeho nahranie a skopírovať sem odkaz na neho.
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
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• Je tento text dostupný v prekladovom systéme? Ak áno, bol preložený po dlhšie ako 24 hodín?
Yes. Not sure on move number. Round 7.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Mozilla v5
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• Prosím presne a stručne vysvetli svoj podnet, aby bolo čo najjednoduchšie pochopiť, ako to myslíš.
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Mozilla v5
História hlásenia
All regions with the most Caballeros are scored immediately" Action card.
Table #257938244 (playing in firefox 99.0, 64-bits)
Turn 146 - I chose the action to score the region with most caballeros in it, because everybody had some in them but me, and the playets comming after me would benefit the most, so i wanted to block them - i chose the card, placed my caballero's, and then the action was performed without an option not to choose it...
It happened earlier in the game (I think) when opponent pyonfey mad a similar ridiculous choice to score somthing that benefitted not him but two other players (me not being one of them)
It was 10 to 20 points my opponents got handed where they shouldn't have - a real shame because overall the gameplay feels very much like the real deal
Thanks for looking into it
It was not my first time.
This is a critical failure altering the game completely.
It's visible only if you play with the phone in panoramic mode.
Hope it helps
This is a serious UX bug with a huge effect on scoring. The game *does* give you the option to not perform the card action, but this choice is not given to the user in isolation. It is lumped in with another choice to confirm placement of caballeros, and it is also "hidden" behind a non-blue button.
Question 1: "You may choose between placing caballeros and action [Use action] [Place caballeros]."
Question 2: (screenshotted above): "You may place 0 / 3 caballeros [Confirm placement of caballeros] [Cancel] [Confirm placement of caballeros and skip action]."
The BGA/Web conventions for button colors are that (a) standard buttons should always be blue and do only one thing, and (b) only cancel/undo buttons should be red or white.
Please make it a separate step in the flow to prompt the user to either use or not use the special action. This decision does not belong in the place caballeros phase.
Suggested Q1: "You may choose between placing caballeros and action [Use action] [Place caballeros]"
Suggested Q2: "You may place 0 / 3 caballeros [Confirm placement] [Cancel]"
Suggeseted Q3: "You may perform the special action [Use action] [Do not use action]"
Alternatively, a quick code hack could be to reorder and change the copy on the buttons to read "[Confirm placement and perform action][Confirm placement and skip action][Cancel]" (...blue then blue then white buttons). This kind of change would remove confusion for me, at least.
I have been enjoying this game more the last couple of months. And while the buttons are now a little wordy, I haven't once gotten messed up by the logic flow like I did before. Thanks!
Pridať niečo k tomuto hláseniu
- Iné ID stola / ID ťahu
- Vyriešil sa problém pomocou F5?
- Objavil sa problém viackrát? Zakaždým? Náhodne?
- Ak máš screenshot (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť Imgur.com na jeho nahranie a skopírovať sem odkaz na neho.
