#67415: "Number 5 never occurring while breaking safe"
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• Prosím skopíruj a vlož chybové hlásenie, ktoré si videl na obrazovke, ak sa nejaké vyskytlo.
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• Prosím vysvetli, čo si chcel/a spraviť, čo si spravil/a a čo sa stalo
The dice ability to make a 5.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Safari v15.4
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• Skopíruj/vlož text zobrazený v angličtine namiesto tvojho jazyka. Ak máš screenshot (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť Imgur.com na jeho nahranie a skopírovať sem odkaz na neho.
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• Je tento text dostupný v prekladovom systéme? Ak áno, bol preložený po dlhšie ako 24 hodín?
The dice ability to make a 5.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Safari v15.4
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• Prosím presne a stručne vysvetli svoj podnet, aby bolo čo najjednoduchšie pochopiť, ako to myslíš.
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Safari v15.4
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• Čo sa objavilo na obrazovke, keď si bol zablokovaný (Prázdna obrazovka? Časť herného rozhrania? Chybové hlásenie?)?
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Safari v15.4
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• Ktorá časť pravidiel nebola dodržaná v BGA adaptácii?
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• Je možné vidieť porušenie pravidiel na zázname z hry? Ak áno, aké je číslo ťahu?
The dice ability to make a 5.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Safari v15.4
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• Aký herný ťah si chcel urobiť?
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• Čo si skúsil aby si vyvolal túto akciu?
The dice ability to make a 5.
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• Čo sa stalo keď si spravil túto hernú akciu (chybové hlásenie, hlásenie v stavovom pruhu, ...)?
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Safari v15.4
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• Kedy v priebehu hry sa problém vyskytol (aká bola prebiehajúca herná inštrukcia)?
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• Čo sa stalo keď si spravil túto hernú akciu (chybové hlásenie, hlásenie v stavovom pruhu, ...)?
The dice ability to make a 5.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Safari v15.4
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• Prosím popíš viditeľný problém. Ak máš screenshot (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť Imgur.com na jeho nahranie a skopírovať sem odkaz na neho.
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Safari v15.4
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• Skopíruj/vlož text zobrazený v angličtine namiesto tvojho jazyka. Ak máš screenshot (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť Imgur.com na jeho nahranie a skopírovať sem odkaz na neho.
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• Je tento text dostupný v prekladovom systéme? Ak áno, bol preložený po dlhšie ako 24 hodín?
The dice ability to make a 5.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Safari v15.4
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• Prosím presne a stručne vysvetli svoj podnet, aby bolo čo najjednoduchšie pochopiť, ako to myslíš.
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Safari v15.4
História hlásenia
FYI, in case this helps… I was the advanced Peterman character. So I was adding and rolling safe dice from the floor below in-between turns where Zilch was rolling too. I would usually get an “unstable interface” toast notification (Chrome browser on Mac) on my first mouse click and then my second click would perform my special action to roll the safe dice.
Last night, while observing skriss' game, there were two issues noticed:
1) There were several instances of duplicate sets being rolled on 4 die. The sets looked something like this (pattern is correct but the numbers aren't exact):
2,1,6,4
2,1,6,4
Next turn:
4,5,2,1
4,5,2,1
6,2,4,2
6,2,4,2
This was the most egregious example that I remember but there were several other ones showing an issue. The odds of getting three consecutive pairs of matches like that on 4 die are astronomically low (it's (1/6)^12, or roughly 1 in 500,000,000)
From my experience developing other applications, this is probably caused by a new RNG object being created for every set of rolls. Doing this in quick succession creates the RNG objects with the same seed, causing them to generate the same set of numbers. This can be fixed by creating a single instance of the RNG that is used for the entire turn or a single instance used for the entire game.
2) Players would intermittently receive an error when rolling to open the safe (was on a Skype call with the players who discussed it there). I suspect that the correct number was actually being "rolled" but it generated the error when rolled. This was observed after using the Peterman's drill ability to open a safe on a different floor. It was only seen when attempting to get the last number of the safe but I don't remember if the other numbers were rolled before or after the first use of the Peterman's ability.
It's possible that this is the cause of issue 1 and that rolling the needed number caused the game to "fall back" to the previous set of rolls when the error was encountered.
Hopefully this helps. We've really enjoyed the game so far.
As I said, an error message occurred quite often, I believe it was when the die should have been 5 and the safe open, the bug probably comes from a bug happening when the safe opens.
On this bug:
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=42896
you said 'should be ok', so you doesn't seem to be sure and doesn't seem to have tested that.
Could there be that donuts are generated on that tile on that floor, the game doesn't like it, so don't allow that to happen and roll something else.
It appears that the two players rolled 215 times for the safe on floor 1. The results were 41 ones, 43 twos, 43 threes, 44 fours, 0 fives, and 44 sixes.
I think you have a bug and I think you owe everyone here an apology.
Here, the problem isn't the random, but something else.
But yeah that something is here: boardgamearena.com/bug?id=68285
2) And did you test with the advanced Peterman character? This is another common symptom.
Those are the 2 common reported symptoms. Please do your due diligence and test them. Instability bugs are always difficult to resolve, so I understand if you end up not being successful. But you have not provided sufficient evidence to call this 'notabug' at this point.
and for the record, i am a volunteer developer that doing this on my free time because i like the game and the spirit of BGA, insulting me or my work (or at least being rude) doesn't help at all ^^
and this is true for most of the games developed here
I think flakattack510 said it all.
Not able to roll a 1 -- my math professor partner in the game says we are up to 1 in 9 million chance.
Peterman's Drill being used along with "normal" attempts.
Getting lots and lots of "error processing database request" messages -- about as often as the chance of rolling a 1 on at least 1 of 4-5 dice.
Same bug, and Advanced Peterman is in the game. Although it occurs for either player, not just Advanced Peterman. We got no 1s, and frequently got the database error: "Unexpected error: Error while processing Database request (reference: GS9 25/07 22:52:36)". Presumably that error happened whenever we would have actually rolled a 1.
This was on the 3rd floor. No problems on floor 1 or floor 2. Floor 3 was when the Advanced Peterman started to Drill, and the error started when we were down to needing only 1 number.
Pridať niečo k tomuto hláseniu
- Iné ID stola / ID ťahu
- Vyriešil sa problém pomocou F5?
- Objavil sa problém viackrát? Zakaždým? Náhodne?
- Ak máš screenshot (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť Imgur.com na jeho nahranie a skopírovať sem odkaz na neho.
