#75834: "Game declared us winners when we got executed by queen"
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• Prosím skopíruj a vlož chybové hlásenie, ktoré si videl na obrazovke, ak sa nejaké vyskytlo.
The logs says that we got executed by the queen, but the game end screen says we are both winners. I don't know if this was intended since that was my first game.
The garden was not fully filled either.• Prosím vysvetli, čo si chcel/a spraviť, čo si spravil/a a čo sa stalo
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v107
• Skopíruj/vlož text zobrazený v angličtine namiesto tvojho jazyka. Ak máš screenshot (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť Imgur.com na jeho nahranie a skopírovať sem odkaz na neho.
The logs says that we got executed by the queen, but the game end screen says we are both winners. I don't know if this was intended since that was my first game.
The garden was not fully filled either.• Je tento text dostupný v prekladovom systéme? Ak áno, bol preložený po dlhšie ako 24 hodín?
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v107
• Prosím presne a stručne vysvetli svoj podnet, aby bolo čo najjednoduchšie pochopiť, ako to myslíš.
The logs says that we got executed by the queen, but the game end screen says we are both winners. I don't know if this was intended since that was my first game.
The garden was not fully filled either.• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v107
• Čo sa objavilo na obrazovke, keď si bol zablokovaný (Prázdna obrazovka? Časť herného rozhrania? Chybové hlásenie?)?
The logs says that we got executed by the queen, but the game end screen says we are both winners. I don't know if this was intended since that was my first game.
The garden was not fully filled either.• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v107
• Ktorá časť pravidiel nebola dodržaná v BGA adaptácii?
The logs says that we got executed by the queen, but the game end screen says we are both winners. I don't know if this was intended since that was my first game.
The garden was not fully filled either.• Je možné vidieť porušenie pravidiel na zázname z hry? Ak áno, aké je číslo ťahu?
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v107
• Aký herný ťah si chcel urobiť?
The logs says that we got executed by the queen, but the game end screen says we are both winners. I don't know if this was intended since that was my first game.
The garden was not fully filled either.• Čo si skúsil aby si vyvolal túto akciu?
• Čo sa stalo keď si spravil túto hernú akciu (chybové hlásenie, hlásenie v stavovom pruhu, ...)?
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v107
• Kedy v priebehu hry sa problém vyskytol (aká bola prebiehajúca herná inštrukcia)?
The logs says that we got executed by the queen, but the game end screen says we are both winners. I don't know if this was intended since that was my first game.
The garden was not fully filled either.• Čo sa stalo keď si spravil túto hernú akciu (chybové hlásenie, hlásenie v stavovom pruhu, ...)?
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v107
• Prosím popíš viditeľný problém. Ak máš screenshot (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť Imgur.com na jeho nahranie a skopírovať sem odkaz na neho.
The logs says that we got executed by the queen, but the game end screen says we are both winners. I don't know if this was intended since that was my first game.
The garden was not fully filled either.• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v107
• Skopíruj/vlož text zobrazený v angličtine namiesto tvojho jazyka. Ak máš screenshot (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť Imgur.com na jeho nahranie a skopírovať sem odkaz na neho.
The logs says that we got executed by the queen, but the game end screen says we are both winners. I don't know if this was intended since that was my first game.
The garden was not fully filled either.• Je tento text dostupný v prekladovom systéme? Ak áno, bol preložený po dlhšie ako 24 hodín?
• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v107
• Prosím presne a stručne vysvetli svoj podnet, aby bolo čo najjednoduchšie pochopiť, ako to myslíš.
The logs says that we got executed by the queen, but the game end screen says we are both winners. I don't know if this was intended since that was my first game.
The garden was not fully filled either.• Aký prehliadač používaš?
Google Chrome v107
História hlásenia
BGA treats any solo/co-op games with positive score as 'victory' (regardless of the game rules).
Although it is indeed mentioned that you can keep history track of your scores in the Royal Log as you mention, the Game End is very clear about the win conditions:
You and your teammates win if the royal garden is filled without the Gardeners being caught by the Queen.
Note: Players must still complete all phases of a turn, including guessing a Whim and moving the Queen, even on the turn the garden is fully filled.
You and your teammates immediately lose the game if the Queen reaches or passes the Gardeners on the score track
So it is really very much against the intent and nature of the game to declare a positive score as winning.
The final score will actually always be positive, it doesn’t mean anything but IRL is just kept for history in that Royal Log book.
Also, The final score can be 0 or negative if players end up with 10 points or less.
And the game stat doesn’t really reflect the intent of the game win condition.
Of course it is a co-op game, so ELO etc doesn’t count anyway, but it will still be really confusing and unsatisfying to see “win” declared when actually loosing through execution.
I would at least suggest to reopen the bug so other people can upvote it, so you can see how much feedback you get on it.
Unless the rules change I'll leave this ticket closed.
I am not suggesting a house rule, the actual rules from the game are very explicit:
“ You and your teammates immediately lose the game if the Queen reaches or passes the Gardeners on the score track “
It is actually your implementation and the default BGA behavior that are leading to a house rule, by incorrectly recording a positive score as a Win. (Other games on BGA sometimes work around this by forcing scores to become negative in case of specific losing conditions - something you could also easily achieve by for instance distracting another -1000 or whatever when executed by the queen)
Please, take this up again and discuss this issue with the publisher, it seems really strange that they would prefer to have all games declared as Win.
Pridať niečo k tomuto hláseniu
- Iné ID stola / ID ťahu
- Vyriešil sa problém pomocou F5?
- Objavil sa problém viackrát? Zakaždým? Náhodne?
- Ak máš screenshot (dobrý zvyk), môžeš použiť Imgur.com na jeho nahranie a skopírovať sem odkaz na neho.